Circumcision: An unnecessary practice?

By: María de los Angeles Miranda

There are different views about what is circumcision, for examplesome countries, they do a circumcision for medical reasons or for religious beliefs, etc. While there are different views on this issue, it seems to have no reason to considered doing a circumcision for a better hygiene, because "if men are not circumcised, smegma accumulates in his private, though, circumcision and hygiene are not scientifically linked.  The Royal Dutch Medical Association says that "there's no convincing evidence that circumcision is useful or necessary in terms of prevention and hygiene." besides the American Academy of Pediatrics says that "circumcision has been suggested as an effective method of maintaining penile hygiene since the time of the Egyptian dynasties, but there’s little evidence to affirm the association between circumcision status and optimal penile hygiene”[1]. Therefore none of the definitions can discern, because there are only a few credible studies who can endorse that the circumcision as a method of hygiene, or as a fundamental technique for male health care.

In my opinion, circumcision is truly an unnecessary intervention, because I think the human body is structured in a certain way, and we have to accept it just as it is and   understand that every part of the human body has it's function. Moreover, there are various studies that refer to this technique saying that it reduces the risk of contracting HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases. While I think it is extremely important to take the necessary steps to take care of any disease that threatens our health, I think there are other steps that you can take to avoid them, such as using a condom. However, in the case of phimosis or other complications, it's necesary to do a circumcision, because it threatens the health of a person. But when it's done for no reason, I don't see a solid argument to support this action. Let's not forget that nature is wise and put something there for a reason. However, in the terms of the people who calls this action a "mutilation" I consider it that an exaggeration, as I would call it, an "unnecessary surgery."

Following with this issue, a renowned newspaper said: "according to pediatric studies, performing circumcision on newborn males, provides benefits such as reducing the risk of HIV and some sexually transmitted infections such as genital herpes, human papillomavirus and syphilis. These are the conclusions of a technical and a political statement of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), headquartered in Chicago"[2] Following this idea, several scientists want to make a plan for doing a circumcision in the first few months of birth. Which, I consider an aberration, because I think that every person has the right to choose.  For example some children, when they grow up, they take the decision to cut it, if they decide to cut it, it’s on their own free will and I believe that's a valid choice. The problem is that when those who have been mutilated can not take the decision to leave it there. Every kid has the right to make that decision and no one can take that decision for them

Let's not forget, that there are many things that are known after they're made, such like food was bad or that components of certain products can cause cancer. What if a after a while scientist discovers that circumcision helps, but it causes others irreversible effects? It can happen, and wouldn't be so surprising considering that scientist haven't done profound studies on the subject, neither there's a long follow up on the people who has been circumcised so we could be talking about a damage that has no turning back.

References:

[1]  www.meneame.net

[2] www.cronica.com

 

Circumcision

By: Jaime Cruz

The Circumcision its a practice that starts from 5th century BC, and the first culture who start this activity was de Egyptian. In other culture the circumcision was practiced by the Jews for over 4500 years ago. Abraham was circumcised by a divine order according to biblical texts.
In my opinion the circumcision it’s a healthy practice because no one is forced to do this operation. “The health care provider will usually numb the penis with local anesthesia before the procedure starts. The numbing medicine may be injected at the base of the penis, in the shaft, or applied as a cream.
There are a variety of ways to perform a circumcision. Most commonly, the foreskin is pushed from the head of the penis and clamped with a metal or plastic ring-like device”. In this way the circumcision has a variety of intervention by making it a safe practice.
The circumcision in older and adolescent boys is usually done under general anesthesia, the child is completely asleep, and the baby’s have local anesthesia.
American Academy of Pediatrics made a study of the risk of children who are not circumcised.
Bleeding, infection, redness around the surgery site, injury to the penis. The study concludes that are a risk of cancer in male infants including: cancer of the penis, sexually transmitted HIV, infections of the penis, phimosis, and urinary tract infections. American Academy recommend Hygiene of the penis and “safe sexual practice can help prevent many of these conditions”. The most important practice is hygiene always.
In the society the circumcision its seen as a bad practice because most of the countries that comprising ONU rejects this practice. This practice is a violation of the ethics and integrity of the male.
“In ancient Greeks and Romans valued the foreskin and were opposed to circumcision”, this trade was inherited by the secular legal system of the Christian West. By the way, the laws in many countries and United States Federal laws, refuse the genital modification and mutilation of male minors, with come exception based on medical need. Other important point it’s the opponents of female mutilation of minors and says: “ Assert that laws against genital modification and mutilation of minors should apply equally to males and females”.

However a report  by  Unicef says: "When the practice first came to be known beyond the societies in which it was traditionally carried out, it was generally referred to as "female circumcision". This term, however, draws a direct parallel with male circumcision and, as a result, creates confusion between these two distinct practices." Its very important to know the circumcision in female its equals than of male and opponents consider this practice equality.
“This stance has been largely echoed by Western medical and political authorities. The Australian Medical Association states: "The AMA rejects the euphemism "female circumcision", sometimes used to describe the various forms of female genital mutilation, because the use of this phrase trivializes the severe and often irreparable physical and psychological damage occasioned to girls and women by these practices”. In general, this practice has been taken into account worldwide and is critical to know because it is global contingency and need to know it to be more informed.
Another important report was in Xhosa of South Africa where this traditional circumcision caused many deaths of children who were circumcised in poor condition. In 2009 in Eastern Cape Province alone, 80 boys died and hundreds were hospitalized after after being circumcised. Finally “NOCIRC opposes the non-therapeutic circumcision of children” The organization suggests that circumcision must be done when the person need it only when it is absolutely medically necessary.

see more:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/health/23consumer.html

http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/surgery/circumcision/overview.html?8qa


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_qH5A15aQ8

Circumcision By Sylvia Godoi

The topic of circumcision has always caused great controversy around the world, especially in countries that see it with suspicion, considering it an unnecessary practice that attempts against the nature of man.

Circumcision is practiced in Middle Eastern countries, where it is clearly oriented to a matter of religion, including Islam, where it is practiced by most Muslims, Judaism, where is a mandatory practice for over 4500 years, and Judeo-Christianity, where it is believed that practice is closer to God and his commandments,  is not a forced act, but, on the contrary, an act that is done on a voluntary basis.

Whether is considered a culture or a health topic, the  circumcision has been practiced for many years, as outlined in this fragment found on the web that relates, according to the Bible, as God would have spoken to one of his most faithful followers, Abraham , to teach him how and when circumcision was practiced as a demonstrative act of the alliance between God and the Jewish people: "The oldest practice is widespread in Judaism, whose realization is a mandatory practice for 4500 years, when the patriarch Abraham was circumcised by a divine order as the biblical texts and times of the stories. "[1]

 "In Western societies, especially the Anglo-Saxon countries like UK, Canada, Australia and United States, circumcision is done for medical reasons, and never by religion, excepted by Jewish people who live there.”[2]

As you can take from this passage, there is another reason not yet addressed, the medical approach. There are circumstances in which circumcision becomes a sensitive issue and is required for the proper functioning of the body, and to prevent disease. Clearly this approach is more objective, because the person does not have complete freedom as to whether or not practice it, he must do it to protect their own health.

"Today circumcision is performed on the sixth day of life of the male. Among Christians only performed in the Church of Ethiopia. Among Muslims is between three and seven years. It is not prescribed by the Koran. This is a pre-Islamic rite. In many black African tribes circumcision is very important as the climax of a series of rituals that constitute the so-called initiation to life as a young man. More than a hygienic operation, is a test of manhood in which the child ceases to be such and is admitted to the adult community. As we see only the attempt to define it is complex." [2]

In my opinion I think that circumcision is a topic that is quite difficult to criticize, there will always be debates about whether it is a practice oriented to hygiene or mutilation of the male’s reproductive system, but I think the decision is in hands of every man. But is more complex to criticize it if is part of other countrie’s culture, because the act itself is not as important as the social purpose of the same. For the hygienic purpose of the act itself, I think the health and hygiene situation of countries where it is practiced today has changed for good, and it is no longer necessary, has become just a ritual, practiced without a base or a real reason. Whoever who says that is now necessary have to consider that in the time it was implemented was a sensitive issue that improve health and wellbeing of people, however, if someone decides or not practice circumcision today, and this act is not part of his culture, that will be only a senseless act, because the general health situation of the country will let him preserve intact that part of his own body. But I repeat, if the social importance of the act takes a major relevance, it is difficult to criticize the act, so the controversy is far from over, however, everyone is free to do with his body what he want.

References:

 [1] http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuncisi%C3%B3n

 [2]http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/BIB/Potenziani/hist02.htm

A special movie: Perfect Sense

A special movie: Perfect Sense

by Verónica Waldron. 

Perfect Sense is about the story of a girl named Susan. She is epidemiologist , who study all the epidemics and diseases of humans. In the plot, Susan is faced with the incipient beginning of an unknown epidemic that affects senses of people. Also, this epidemic has symptoms that make the person conscious about has got the disease. These symptons are very strange, like before you get lose the sense smell, an attack of cry invades you. This cry cames about nowhere, but in some people, like Susan it cames with the remembers of her father, who deads years ago. About this element of the movie, in some persons the disease gets before than another ones, in the people who gets before, I think  it’s because they have more troubles in their life or  they have a pessimist vision of life. The protagonist, did have a lonely life, she only had her work and a sister, and she made all her life with a couple, making her own family. Susan didn't have any good luck in love. She was very disappointed about love and life in general.

But this last point changed in the movie,  with time, Susan met a guy. Michael, a chef who works near of her house. One day, Susan went to the restaurant with Michael, because he invited to her to eat, and Susan caught the disease. It was a very uncomfortable and a weird situation, because they just met. But Michael was very supportive and welcoming. He  hugs her and took  her to home. Susan obviusly had some shame but at the same time, I feel that she felt really happy and accompanied by Michael. In the perspective of her work, she definately had impotence and frustration because the cure for this strange disease not found out and with the days, it grew more and more.

Michael when took Susan to her house, caught the epidemic too, but his cry was more quiet, with less pain inside. In my opinion, he was more excited for been there with Susan and express his love and attraction to her, than being worried about the epidemic in his body.

If I lose my senses I think I would go crazy. It have to be something terrible that you never want to live. The senses are so important for living, for do everything and lose any one of them, it have to be very sad and difficult. I really don’t want to imagine lose some one of them. I try always to think that they are very important, and give them the importance they deserve.

About the words of the narrator, I think they have much truth in them, because people today it’s very individual and they do not see the importances essential to live and be happy. They just care about themselves. But when they’re involved in a trouble, they always expected a help and be rescued. Including me, when I have a problem I prepare for the worst, but always anyway, I hope it never happens or somebody save me.

I think this movie delivery that feeling, always live the moment, live with love and being generous because you never know if you’re going to die

Perfect Sense, one of my favorites movies

By María de los Ángeles Miranda

      This movie is about a girl, Susan, who is epidemiologist and doesn’t have the best life, because her relationships doesnt’ going well.

In that times in the world, start an terrible epidemic in the humans that remove little by little the humans senses. Susan investigates this with her co workers, with a little fear and uncertainty , because the epidemic first begin with loose the sense of  smell. And cames with a strange desperate cry about anything. That’s was an symptom for know you’re infected with this unexplained virus. Further, in other countries this disease attacked a lots of persons, and doesn't stopped, generating a great fear among the population, and who did not know their origin. This fact made a lot of fear inside Susan, because she didn't want to die alone, with a lot of bad relationships of love.

      Meanwhile, she meets to Michael, a boy who is a chef in a restaurant near of Susan house’s. First she wasn't very interested in him, but with time they ‘re together.

 In a few days of this relationship starts, Susan was the first of them in get infected, in a couple hours, Michael have it too. They were together when Susan begun with the sympton, and at that point she was very scared, because I think, she doesn't want that Michael see her like that, and obviously, she does not  wanted to get infected. In that moment, Michael try with all his heart to help Susan and make her feel better. He hugs her and leads Susan to her house, and stayed with her until they're fell asleep. After that, Michael got the disease. He had a little less of pain and desesperation in his cry than Susan. He took the situation with a lot more of tranquility, and stayed calm at Susan arms. He just made a quiet situation and was more worried off stay there and show their love to Susan.

      If I start to lose my senses, I think I would go very sad and desperate, because I think, like in the movie, lose your senses one by one it has to be horrible. Every sense has a importance in life of humans, and lose them it would be something for get crazy.  I feel that can’t live without my taste sense or the ear sense, don't listen all of the sounds and voices anymore, for me it would  seems like a nightmare. And more,  if it’s by  a strange disease wich don’t have cure and origin. Definately, I just burst into tears if it doesn’t exist an cure.

      About the words of the narrator, I’m agree, because I believe it’s very true about the own interests, like people very individual, only looking for they own benefits. But when the person are in a problem, can prepare for the worst, but inside they have the hope for something good happen. The most of people when are in a trouble, remembers other persons and asks for help. But they only want this help for them too.

Movie: Perfect Sense

By Sylvia Godoi

At first, you can see that Susan tried to give a logical explanation for what was going on, always with the conviction that an event like that would only be momentary, or ultimately the disease could be controlled.

Even when she knows that she was ill, she was calm, because, by their profession, was aware of the evolution of the disease and the possible effects that could potentially have something like that. In addition, Susan, at the time, finds her true love who was very important because they, together, bear all that is happening. To me, Susan acted as rationally as possible, taking into account that many of the people chose to loot or vandalize simply, but she, like most of those affected, realized that not to find the cause of what was happening, he must continue with her life, and just focus on enjoying what could still be done with the senses her still possessed, this point can be reflected in the actions of Susan, markedly the moments he spent with Michael, as were locked in a search for the pleasures of love, in a particular scene sees Susan telling Michael that makes her special by telling her something that only she would know, and she in turn tells him her biggest secret, that she could not have children, I think this scene reflects what Susan attempts to try to experience everything that she had done throughout her life, focusing in what she still possessed.

Michael took refuge in the feeling of love, stuck to Susan to lead the diseases. It is interesting to see the scene where he just lost hearing, and all he thinks about that is that he wants to see her again, see Susan, the only person that can make him feel that nothing was happening matter, that nothing but love was really important, what I think is the most important and salvageable topic from the film, the topic which shows the title of the film, Perfect Sense, the perfect feeling that, despite what happens, survives, and finally, when all else falls away, stands alone and shines with more splendor.

In my case, if I had the disease in the first place I think I'd be sad but then had used every moment with my loved ones, try to bring about the most natural way possible, so that does not affect my life, but always with the things as best you can, even if they are little things, allow time for each person I love and also try to help other people, acting with love and faith that, at some point either a miracle or by a heroic act, the disease can be reversed, and if that does not happen, I would make sure to pay off my debts and be at peace with the world, so that in the end, do not feel any remorse or things left to do or say. To me the most important thing is to leave this world with your head up and a light soul, and above all, with a clear conscience.

Will this conflic have an end?

The students conflict

By: Jaime Cruz

In my opinion, I disagree the new mobilizations in this year it’s a waste of time to study, because all the students who want to study will be harmed to pass clear their year and their preparation for leaving school to college will be bad.

I disagree the idea of free education because the rich people have the money to educate their children. The solution to this problem is that the poor pay less money, and the rich people pay more. The other point of this problem it´s the roll of the Student Federation of Universidad de Chile, because the principal voices have a radical political discourse and this type of discourse it´s bad for young students and the society.

This type of discourse generates: Confusion, disorder, protests and riots. All these causes can be seen after the marches, because the vandals attack public and private property.

Other serious incidents are to attack the police, this incidents in my opinion are very serious because the authority need respect. In other side the police also abused against the students without reason this abuses you can see in the news. In the New York Times, the principal news paper in USA published a news “Volunteers Keep Watch on Protests in Chile”.  In this news said the police abused and the school occupations.

“Protest marches usually erupt in street battles with the police, who use tear gas and chemical-laced water cannons to disperse the crowds and wield their batons to arrest demonstrators. Some students have suffered head injuries, broken noses, convulsions and breathing problems; some have been trampled by police officers on horseback”. The New York Times explains the hard time in the protest, and the police abuse of the last student mobilization.

The other part of this conflict, it’s the support of the parent to students who are in the conflict. One part of parents approves the mobilizations and the other part not approve.

It’s very interesting see the organization of parents helping their children with the conflict, outside the school with posters and slogans against the mobilizations.

The Future of this conflict in my opinion it’s very difficult to know, because the students have many ideas to fight against the solution government gives. Now in this moment the movement have an uncertain ending, because in the last days in Chile was approved “reforma tributaria”. “Reforma tributaria” it’s the principal idea that the students fight to change to get a better education to the future. This reform it’s a good idea, because it’s going to be  more money to support the public education for the young students in the school and university. The government in this new reform it’s gone to injected $ 35 million. This amount of money it’s very important for the future of education.

Finally I hope of a dialogue and a solution in the future to this very serious problem that exists in Chile.

More information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/world/americas/helmeted-volunteers-monitor-student-protests-in-chile.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

this show must over!

By: María de los Ángeles Guerra Owen

I think that this conflict its exceeding the time and the resources of our country, because the mobilizations are becoming very violents and are hurting to many people. Its just thing of turning on the tv and see how all the actions and just everything are so politically distorting, thats make that the value of the idea its lose. In my opinion the country´s political past has not been surpassed and now being felt. However the idea of free education sounds great, thinking of many people that cant afford other schools. But the solution it not so easy 

or at leats not so general.Its necesary to consider all factors that entails, it just would not be fair to the fact that education was free to all because there are people who can afford, then we have to use resources for other needs of the country. So then, the solution is simpler than it seems, is a matter of assessing levels of poverty in the country and take stock where we indicate which is the country's richest segment and which would not need subsidies or payments releases. Well, this is how the situation should be evaluated by experts, because students can do little now, and they were expressed and do not need to reiterate the same idea over and over again, all are being made and lost millions in disaster.

The thing is that the important  is that the student leaders become aware of that chile has a different system to Europe and that things were not this way, you must understand that not have the expertise to solve the problem and leave it the same profesionales. So the government must take the responsability that is required and stop giving solutions that do not work.

Well the solution is to be taken seriously enough and they really think that education is very important for a country to develop, and the only way you can have a family out of poverty, so that is a factor for which should be quite careful.Is sorely needed a quality education in this country because there is very bad teachers that make a child finishes hating a subject or even traume, that is why there should be greater scrutiny on teachers and teaching methodologies.

So finally must be an end to this revolution as we know that most will not have results, that this form of communication is no longer the best, and ideologies should be set aside because the issue is too serious to be distorted like that.

The complicated situation of education in Chile

by: Verónica Waldron

When people talk about the actual situation in our country, Chile, I think it’s really difficult have an a clear and solid opinion, because it’s something that involved everyone and a lots of differents things. And involved in special at the students, because they know how it’s the reality right now at this moment.

It’s true, the quality of the education system have a lots of defiencies and must be more fair in the socioeconomic differences we have in our society. That’s it’s a big deal, because the costs of tariff are too high and unattainable, made a huges debts in people. This situation, in my opinion, have to change with inmediacy. I mean, the most poblation of Chile, are persons of “middle class” and their resources aren´t enough for pay too much things, and less with that absurds high costs. And with this situation, obviously don't exists justice, because  when you talk about the another big part of our society, the people who have the less incomes, it's just something that doesn't make sense. Inclusive, this thought could make you feel horrible, with anger and deception of our State with their standards and laws. 

Going on to something else, I think the system education in Chile shouldn't be free. I mean, of all. I believe in this because, I think the education should be have another economic support from people who want to study and be professional in some career. What I mean is that, to continue in this system of free market (neoliberal)  the variety and competition must be, and it's totally respectable, and even, beneficial for us. Always, like I was saying before, with razonables prices and where possible, with  a real and transparent  social cause. These companies  must have a purpose before everything, and is to educate. 

Following the same idea, I think education it must cost something, because with that way, people learn to pay for something, something like learn to pay, have and use properly a thing so important like it's  be educated. I refer to have an priorities, and understand the value of the knowlegde. The importance of be a person more complete, and of course, with this idea I think, the professors have to have a good remuneration of their very important work. I know the State could cover the pay for education as other countries. For example, Argentina. But I feel it would be too little for teachers, in addition to that there are big rumors that education in countries that have this type of operation, did not have good quality in terms of what is the delivery of knowledge.

In another idea, I think the movilizations and protests are good and necessary for let  leave the free expression of the students and generate some buzz and make an own space.  In this same thing, I don`t agree with the reiterative violence. For this situation. I would look for another way for make come true my wish. Ways more strategics maybe, for being more near from the Government, like can make some "treaty of peace", where both parts undertake  at  some rules.

Anyway, the most thing  that I believe and I want, it this problem will soon be resolved, under a just form and all the citizens of Chile could be more satisfied , happy and educated, for real. 

Chilean student crisis

By: María de los Ángeles Miranda

Regarding the conflict of students who are living in our country, I think the Fetch not playing a good role. This was evident in the last year, the fact that go out and protest in the streets didn't solve anything. It is not enough for the authorities to take some serious action in regard to the allegations of the students.

In addition, the current leaders aren't representative and advocating for their ideals and not listen to the opinions of other students, for example private universities, which would be prejudiced because of the law that rejects profit.

I think this is a deeper issue, because if education were free, it would only be  in the state universities, so it would increase the gap between the knowledge of the students, because they would only have free education those person from private schools, the mainly reason is that  they are still the best prepared in the most basic issues. This would generate that will increase over the vicious circle that exists with the subject of education, and increase the gap between people with resources who choose private elementary and secondary education, and people with less money  who are required to access Municipal education. So...What kind of justice would be talking about here?

On the other hand, I think the theme of the protests is now a habit for them, as there are many students who don't know the reason for their objections, and aren’t fully informed about the topic. In addition, they should be aware that for protesting is hurting other people, for example to workers due to the protests lose a whole day's work that generates less revenue for the months and for their family.

For the same reason, in my view the student protests fail to deliver anything positive, also clearly have lost enough strength and popular support. I think the issue of education is so deep and important to achieve progress in our country, which requires drastic measures, but behaving likes people of the Stone Age that will not be achieved. Clearly, this is a problematic country that requires drastic measures, measures to achieve a truly difference in the Chilean culture, where the mainly focus is on the local primary and secondary education, so that, they can have a good bases  for reach an excellent education university, to prepare us as good people to work here, as in other countries.

Given the above, I think this is an issue that will be talking about it for years to come and will be a long period because there is still no consensus between students and the government, and that both parties are very closed in their thinking, so don't give chance to reach an agreement that benefits for all citizens and college students. The best way to solve a conflict is that there is a willingness to reach a consensus, so as not to affect the interests of the government, nor the students, they should all be working together in a coordinated manner so that progress and Chile recognized by the good people coming out of universities.

This situation must over!

By: María de los Ángeles Guerra Owen

I think that this conflict its exceeding the time and the resources of our country, because the mobilizations are becoming very violents and are hurting to many people. Its just thing of turning on the tv and see how all the actions and just everything are so politically distorting, thats make that the value of the idea its lose. In my opinion the country´s political past has not been surpassed and now being felt. However the idea of free education sounds great, thinking of many people that cant afford other schools. But the solution it not so easy
or at leats not so general.Its necesary to consider all factors that entails, it just would not be fair to the fact that education was free to all because there are people who can afford, then we have to use resources for other needs of the country. So then, the solution is simpler than it seems, is a matter of assessing levels of poverty in the country and take stock where we indicate which is the country's richest segment and which would not need subsidies or payments releases. Well, this is how the situation should be evaluated by experts, because students can do little now, and they were expressed and do not need to reiterate the same idea over and over again, all are being made and lost millions in disaster.

The thing is that the important  is that the student leaders become aware of that chile has a different system to Europe and that things were not this way, you must understand that not have the expertise to solve the problem and leave it the same profesionales. So the government must take the responsability that is required and stop giving solutions that do not work.

Well the solution is to be taken seriously enough and they really think that education is very important for a country to develop, and the only way you can have a family out of poverty, so that is a factor for which should be quite careful.Is sorely needed a quality education in this country because there is very bad teachers that make a child finishes hating a subject or even traume, that is why there should be greater scrutiny on teachers and teaching methodologies.
So finally must be an end to this revolution as we know that most will not have results, that this form of communication is no longer the best, and ideologies should be set aside because the issue is too serious to be distorted like that.

A little opinion about the student mobilization

By Sylvia Godoi Reyes.

A little opinion about the student movilizations.

 In my opinion that calling that CONES doing is not quite right because it is being given a lot of freedom to schools participating in the student movement, creating mismatches, rumors and even situations such as riots or aggressive shots colleges, among other things, it seems more an appeal to the very people involved in the conflict to take the law into their own. Such insinuations generate, on a frequent basis, riots and anti-social behavior of some groups. In my opinion, this kind of attitude has undermined both the safety of the students themselves as people who have little or nothing to do with the movement. It is for this reason that the CONES must think ahead in the effects that their words and be responsible for the movement of both events held peacefully as those that not do it.

Education in Chile is a cross-impacts us all. In other countries, such as Argentina, both health and education are provided free of charge and these services are of excellent quality, while in Chile reach such services, essential for both professional and personal development, is extremely expensive, although there are cheap alternatives but those are of bad quality, so the demands of FECH are entirely valid, but there are other ways of nonviolent protest, other than those that have so far been seen in the student movement. While these attitudes are not violent by one hundred percent of the students, who mostly protest peacefully, has begun to emerge the idea into some groups that there is no other ways to be heard by the authorities besides doing it in this way, been the most disadvantaged who have little or nothing to do with the problem or its solution. In short terms, " I will not been listened if I don't throw them stones."

About the ending of the manifestation any time soon, personally I think that they don’t going to end in a very long time. The mobilizations have become part of the culture of the students, many of whom are happy to even be part of the excesses. This has increased very quickly, and I don´t see any reason that make them stop any time soon. The only feasible way to terminate the student mobilizations would be that both the state and student federations, were willing to open a dialogue in which both parties know they have to give up altogether and find some way to leave both sides satisfied however the FECH and government have been emphatic in saying they will not give up, even a step, and, especially, the FECH argues that student movements will not stop until the state fulfill all their demands. This type of attitude can only hit a wall, and it's inevitable friction generated between the parties that get larger conflicts. But I keep the faith that someday education reaches all people, whether rich or poor, and that is quality, and I dream of a country where it is not necessary to destroy anything to be heard.

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